Comments on: The Slap and Fold Kneading Technique https://www.theperfectloaf.com Learn to Bake Sourdough Bread Sat, 01 Feb 2025 15:33:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Maurizio Leo https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-39636 Sat, 01 Feb 2025 15:33:36 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-39636 In reply to CPere.

No, this is strictly for kneading at the beginning parts of the process.

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By: CPere https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-39585 Sat, 01 Feb 2025 13:15:07 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-39585 Would you ever use this slap/fold method AFTER bulk fermentation, before shaping/banneton?

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By: Maurizio Leo https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-39054 Sat, 28 Dec 2024 12:34:19 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-39054 In reply to Paul Leary.

I sometimes do this if the dough is super slack and wet and really needs a boost. I only do it at the beginning stages of bulk, though. Great Q, Paul!

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By: Paul Leary https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-38914 Fri, 20 Dec 2024 22:20:49 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-38914 Would you ever replace the stretch and fold with slap and fold after mixing and at the beginning of bulk fermentation or just for mixing? Thanks for all your help!

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By: Maurizio Leo https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-38322 Thu, 07 Nov 2024 13:01:07 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-38322 In reply to Sarah Gillard.

You cant overmix by hand, so I would not worry about that. It sounds like you need to reduce the water in the recipe you're working with to better suit your flour!

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By: Sarah Gillard https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-38227 Thu, 31 Oct 2024 15:57:08 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-38227 In reply to Maurizio Leo.

Hi
this is the recipe and issue in having with my slap and folds. It kind of felt strengthened midway through then I kept going, won't
wetting my hands as I went but it then just kind of seems to fall apart. Can you be too aggressive with it and break the gluten.
I had recently made this recipe and only put in half the water this time so I was hoping to see it gain the resistance. I gave it an extra 3-4 minutes if kneading to see if it would come back but it seemed to stay broken and a blob. It feels like it has some structure with the stretch and folds stage but I don't think I ever got to the window pane stage and kept deteriorating instead of building in the kneading. So I stopped and kept going to the next stage.

I've had really good success with a seeded sourdough that is usually my go to but have not had great luck with working with wet dough and feeling like it's got strength as well as getting much oven spring

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By: Maurizio Leo https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-36952 Fri, 09 Aug 2024 11:54:53 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-36952 In reply to Pam Atchison.

It's okay for the dough to break apart a bit, just keep mixing until it comes back together, then do the slap and fold!

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By: R. Blake Kessler https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-36320 Fri, 28 Jun 2024 21:25:52 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-36320 In reply to Kooky.

At least one French expert advises against using fresh flour, preferring flour that has "stabilized," or rested for at least 3 weeks.
This may be causing some of your problems. Good luck!

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By: A. Dees https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-34720 Sat, 24 Feb 2024 17:43:55 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-34720 In reply to Maurits M.

My understanding is that this is very normal as the salt starts acting on the dough. Basically, keep going until it starts pulling itself back together, or just do more stretch and folds during bulk fermentation.

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By: Pam Atchison https://www.theperfectloaf.com/guides/slap-and-fold/#comment-31920 Sat, 24 Jun 2023 20:35:21 +0000 https://www.theperfectloaf.com/?page_id=6767#comment-31920 I was on the fence about adding the 2nd water to my Rustico dough. The dough seemed perfect after the first 10 minute rest, but I thought perhaps it should have a bit more hydration. The dough was the perfect temp, 78 degrees. I added half of Water 2 and all seemed ok as I started my slap and folds. Then everything got gooey. Perhaps my wooden work surface would not allow the dough to release for the slap and fold as well as the dough becoming too hydrated? I worked it as best as I could, way longer than 3-5 minutes. It’s in a proofing box now and has had one stretch and fold. The dough seemed to have stiffened up from the gooey mess I had on the wooden work surface. I did more than one set of Stretch & Fold than the recipe called for. Fingers crossed all goes well. Perhaps I will do a coil fold as well. I was so pleased I had Type 85 flour on hand. I really want this loaf to be great.

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